Tightening the Abortion Laws

28 Jun

There is currently a bill currently trying to be passed by Republicans in Texas that would apparently put some of the toughest restrictions on abortion in the country.

While I associate more with the liberal side of things, and also consider myself pro-choice, I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around why it is such a terrible bill.

Basically, the bill proposes 3 things:

1) Abortions will be illegal after 5 months (20 weeks, technically)

2) Abortion clinics should operate at the same standards as hospital-level surgical centers.

3) Doctors performing abortions will need to have admitting privileges at a nearby hospital.

First of all, I firmly believe you should be able to make a decision regarding your body and the body you carry inside of you by the time you are 5 months pregnant. It’s kind of an important decision, and should be of the highest priority. It’s not too long after that that the fetus is viable when removed from the womb.

Second, I think making clinics be at the highest standard possible only ensures the safety of the patient.

Finally, unless I have this completely wrong, doctors should be able to admit patients if something goes wrong.

Another issue with the ban is that incest and rape victims would be some sort of exception, and while I understand these situations are touchy, difficult, and each one is different, I think that you should be able to make a decision about your baby  by 5 months. Again, this is a high-priority decision.

What’s your thoughts? Is 20 weeks really too soon to make a decision? Do you think these proposals are a good idea, or just a ploy to shut down abortion clinics?

Articles:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/us/politics/senate-democrats-in-texas-try-blocking-abortion-bill-with-filibuster.html?_r=0

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/24/texas_abortion_bill_sponsor_doesnt_know_what_a_rape_kit_is/

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8 Responses to “Tightening the Abortion Laws”

  1. purplepoet7 June 29, 2013 at 7:21 am #

    Those don’t seem like bad things at all. I think the big objection to the bill was that it would cause the majority of clinics to be shut down. I’m not understanding why they couldn’t just keep the clinics open and restrict the abortions to the ones which met the requirements until the others could get up and running, though.

  2. girlforgetful June 29, 2013 at 8:22 am #

    I agree with you on points 2 and 3 – an abortion is a medical procedure and should be treated like any other in terms of the care provided to the patient. Point 1, though, raises some issues that many people aren’t taking into consideration. In particular, I would point to a situation where a fetus may be, for instance, brain dead after 5 months, or the fetus dies as a result of some other unfortunate natural event as a result of disease or malformation during gestation. In that instance, a woman would be forced to carry the dead fetus until her body naturally “eliminates” it. This could be dangerous for the mother; she could become septic, not to mention the mental and emotional pain she will suffer knowing she is carrying a dead baby. Can you imagine being approached and congratulated on your pregnancy, and having to explain that your baby is actually dead? This scenario has played out in many instances already. It’s abusive and doesn’t make any sense in medical terms. There are also instances in which the fetus may be alive, but circumstances may make it life-endangering for the mother to continue the pregnancy. Let’s say you’re a mother who already has four children, and #5 is on the way. At six months you are diagnosed with cervical cancer and you have a choice; abort the baby and receive life-saving treatment, or carry the baby to term and allow the cancer to develop beyond the point that the mother could be treated and saved. Whose interests do you consider? The four children who will lose their mother? The mother who will lose her life? Or the unborn child?

    Anyway, the point of the bill in Texas isn’t to insure the safety of women receiving abortions; it’s to essentially ban abortion. Rick Perry claims that Texas values all life – except the life of the person he put to death this week, the 500th execution in Texas. The hypocrisy stinks to high heaven.

    • mishie1 June 30, 2013 at 6:37 pm #

      That was a point that I meant to touch on, but I forgot while I was talking about everything else. Yes, that is something vital that needs to be addressed on any abortion ban, however, I completely support bans on abortions after 20 weeks that take into consideration health and wellness of mother and fetus.

  3. fadingsunlight June 30, 2013 at 9:53 am #

    I guess my question would be “What else is in the bill?” Things are very, very, very rarely that neat and clean cut. GirlForgetful makes a good point to; there doesn’t seem to be any mention in there of “No abortions after 5 months, unless the pregnancy is doomed.”

  4. buddy71 July 5, 2013 at 7:48 pm #

    i agree with all but #1. it should never be illegal to have an abortion, but i do understand why they pick that time as the baby can be viable outside the mom. but i am still prochoice and it should be a safe place to have a procedure and standards should apply. but never illegal

    • mishie1 July 5, 2013 at 7:57 pm #

      I definitely can’t support a woman who has had 8 or 9 months to make a decision having an abortion of a perfectly healthy child. To me, that isn’t okay.

      • buddy71 July 5, 2013 at 9:50 pm #

        8-9 months would be a birth.
        i understand your thought/feelings on that. what i object to is the term “illegal”. if left illegal, then women will go to the back door/back alley places to have them done and that would not be safe to do. i dont know if texas has the “baby safe” program like they do here in california. which a mother can drop off a newborn at any hospital or fire station and walk away.
        to make it illegal could put it in the realm of drugs and alcohol where they are obtained through questionable ways.
        and besides, why is it illegal to the mother, yet not to those that would preform the abortion? again, i feel it would make it unsafe.

        this is always a hot topic with strong feelings on both sides with no truly good answers

  5. ialsoagree July 28, 2013 at 6:00 pm #

    My opinion on some of these points:

    1) It’s been well established by scientific research – and affirmed by the Supreme Court – that a fetus does not become viable until around 25 weeks (the exact timing has to be determined on a case-by-case basis). For this reason, the Supreme Court has already ruled that past 25 weeks abortions cannot be performed except to protect the life of the mother (or for other serious medical reasons, such as quality of life of the fetus). To change that, arbitrarily, and to remove the ability for doctors to determine viability by simply placing a hard limit serves no purpose.

    Further, it interferes with the autonomy of women by forcing them to carry a fetus that is dependent on them for survival. If a fetus is entitled to use the life of another living thing to keep it alive, so should every other person be entitled to force other people’s bodies to be used for their own survival. And that’s simply a road we do not want to walk down.

    2) Certainly don’t have an issue with it – the vast majority of clinics performing abortions already meet this standard. It’s a law to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.

    3) Doesn’t serve any purpose. Whether you arrive at the emergency room with a doctor capable of admitting you or not, the ER doctor can admit you. The only purpose this law serves is to shut down access to abortion clinics, by requiring doctors to work for nearby hospitals in order to perform abortions – a requirement that will at best severely limit their availability at the clinic, and at worse prevent them from working at the clinic at all.

    Most importantly about number 3 though, there’s no actual benefit. If you show up to an ER on your own, you’ll get the exact same care as you would if you showed up with an admitting doctor, simply because the ER doctor can admit you anyway.

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